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En hyllest til Zecharia Sitchin og intervensjonsteorien

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InnleggSkrevet: 04 02 10 03:03    Tittel: En hyllest til Zecharia Sitchin og intervensjonsteorien Svar med Sitat

Min artikkel "En hyllest til Zecharia Sitchin" (Nyhetsspeilet, 4. februar 2010).
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InnleggSkrevet: 04 02 10 19:20    Tittel: Re: En hyllest til Zecharia Sitchin og intervensjonsteorien Svar med Sitat

Rolf Kenneth skrev:
Min artikkel "En hyllest til Zecharia Sitchin" (Nyhetsspeilet, 4. februar 2010).

En veldig god oversikt over Sitchins teori og bøker, Rolf Kenneth. Og med godbiter også til en som har lest flere av bøkene hans. Han avfeies vel ofte av "autoritetene" med at han ikke har formell akademisk bakrunn i arkeologi og gamle sumeriske språk, men er autodidakt. Men, det forandrer jo ikke innholdet i "mytene" han gjengir. Og om dem er det vel ikke så stor strid?

Hans "forbrytelser" består vel i at han spør: Hva om dette er fortellinger om noe som faktisk har hendt? Og IKKE myter og gamle folkeeventyr (slik mange har spurt seg også om urtidens vediske vedas?) Og han har jo gravd frem en del geologiske indisier, som støtter hypotesen sin, og er litt vanskelig bare å avfeie.

Uansett, så er det spennende spekulasjoner. Flott artikkel!

Litt googling viste meg at gnostikerne har tatt Sitchin til inntekt for sin tro, og jeg har sitert fra dem i postingen under, fordi de peker på en del interessante sider ved det menneskelige genom, som foreløpig mangler gode forklaringer...

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InnleggSkrevet: 04 02 10 19:37    Tittel: THE CASE OF ADAM’S ALIEN GENES Svar med Sitat


In whose image was The Adam – the prototype of modern humans, Homo sapiens – created?

The Bible asserts that the Elohim said: “Let us fashion the Adam in our image and after our likeness.” But if one is to accept a tentative explanation for enigmatic genes that humans possess, offered when the deciphering of the human genome was announced in mid-February, the feat was decided upon by a group of bacteria!

“Humbling” was the prevalent (vanligste) adjective used by the scientific teams and the media to describe the principal finding – that the human genome contains not the anticipated 100,000 - 140,000 genes (the stretches of DNA that direct the production of amino-acids and proteins) but only some 30,000+ -- little more than double the 13,601 genes of a fruit fly and barely 50% more than the roundworm’s 19,098. What a comedown from the pinnacle of the genomic Tree of Life!

Moreover, there was hardly any uniqueness to the human genes. They are comparative to not the presumed 95% but to almost 99% of the chimpanzees, and 70% of the mouse. Human genes, with the same functions, were found to be identical to genes of other vertebrates, as well as invertebrates, plants, fungi, even yeast. The findings not only confirmed that there was one source of DNA for all life on Earth, but also enabled the scientists to trace the evolutionary process – how more complex organisms evolved, genetically, from simpler ones, adopting at each stage the genes of a lower life form to create a more complex higher life form – culminating with Homo sapiens.

The “Head-scratching” Discovery

It was here, in tracing the vertical evolutionary record contained in the human and the other analyzed genomes, that the scientists ran into an enigma. The “head-scratching discovery by the public consortium,” as Science (det amerikanske vitenskapsselskapets journal) termed it, was that the human genome contains 223 genes that do not have the required predecessors on the genomic evolutionary tree.

How did Man acquire such a bunch of enigmatic genes?

In the evolutionary progression from bacteria to invertebrates (such as the lineages of yeast, worms, flies or mustard weed – which have been deciphered) to vertebrates (mice, chimpanzees) and finally modern humans, these 223 genes are completely missing in the invertebrate phase. Therefore, the scientists can explain their presence in the human genome by a “rather recent” (in evolutionary time scales) “probable horizontal transfer from bacteria.”

In other words: At a relatively recent time as Evolution goes, modern humans acquired an extra 223 genes not through gradual evolution, not vertically on the Tree of Life, but horizontally, as a sideways insertion of genetic material from bacteria

An Immense Difference

Now, at first glance it would seem that 223 genes is no big deal. In fact, while every single gene makes a great difference to every individual, 223 genes make an immense difference to a species such as ours.

The human genome is made up of about three billion neucleotides (the “letters” A-C-G-T which stand for the initials of the four nucleic acids that spell out all life on Earth); of them, just a little more than one percent are grouped into functioning genes (each gene consists of thousands of "letters"). The difference between one individual person and another amounts to about one “letter” in a thousand in the DNA “alphabet.” The difference between Man and Chimpanzee is less than one percent as genes go; and one percent of 30,000 genes is 300.

So, 223 genes is more than two thirds of the difference between me, you and a chimpanzee!

An analysis of the functions of these genes through the proteins that they spell out, conducted by the Public Consortium team and published in the journal Nature, shows that they include not only proteins involved in important physiological but also psychiatric functions. Moreover, they are responsible for important neurological enzymes that stem only from the mitochondrial portion of the DNA – the so-called “Eve” DNA that humankind inherited only through the mother-line, all the way back to a single “Eve.” That finding alone raises doubt regarding that the "bacterial insertion" explanation.

A Shaky Theory

How sure are the scientists that such important and complex genes, such an immense human advantage, was obtained by us --“rather recently”-- through the courtesy of infecting bacteria?

“It is a jump that does not follow current evolutionary theories,” said Steven Scherer, director of mapping of the Human Genome Sequencing Center at Baylor College of Medicine.

Steven Scherer

“We did not identify a strongly preferred bacterial source for the putative horizontally transferred genes,” states the report in Nature. The Public Consortium team, conducting a detailed search, found that some 113 genes (out of the 223) “are widespread among bacteria” – though they are entirely absent even in invertebrates. An analysis of the proteins which the enigmatic genes express showed that out of 35 identified, only ten had counterparts in vertebrates (ranging from cows to rodents to fish); 25 of the 35 were unique to humans.

“It is not clear whether the transfer was from bacteria to human or from human to bacteria,” Science quoted Robert Waterson, co-director of Washington University’s Genome Sequencing Center, as saying.

But if Man gave those genes to bacteria, where did Man acquire those genes to begin with?


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Introns: a Mystery

A surprising phenomenon was discovered in 1977 — introns. These are sequences of DNA, within genes, which have no apparent purpose. The genes containing them were called "split genes." You could think of introns as long commercials, in a language you don't understand, interrupting your favorite television show right in the middle of the action. Introns are rare within prokaryotic cells. They are rare within the nuclear genomes of single-celled eukaryotes. However, within the cells of multicelled animals and plants almost every gene has introns.

By 1977 we already knew that eukaryotic genes were long. We knew that the same genes could be located in different places in different members of the same species. We knew that a lot of DNA was silent. But none of these observations led to the prediction of introns; they were a complete surprise. "Surprisingly" is a very common word in genetics research. The Darwinian paradigm makes very few predictions, yet is often surprised.

Introns are interruptions in the text of eukaryotic genes. Every time the genome is replicated, they are replicated right along with it. For Richard Dawkins, introns are an example of pure "selfish DNA," out for its own survival only. But, for the survival of any creature whose genes carry them, introns are a problem to solve. Somehow, at some stage, introns have to be removed before the ultimate product of the gene, the protein, can be made without error.

By 1980 biologists had discovered that eukaryotic cells have an elaborate mechanism for doing the necessary editing. First, the whole DNA sequence, with introns, is transcribed into RNA. Then, within the cell nucleus, targeted arrays of enzymes and other proteins in complexes called spliceosomes locate the introns, snip them out, and splice the RNA back together. It all must happen with absolutely perfect precision. If the cut or splice is one nucleotide out of place, a "frameshift error" would ruin the entire protein. Only after this precise editing does the RNA pass out of the nucleus, to a ribosome, to be translated into protein.


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