FrittForum Debatt Hovedsiden FrittForum Debatt

 
 HjelpHjelp   SøkSøk   GrupperGrupper   Bli MedlemBli Medlem 
 ProfilProfil   Sjekk private meldingerSjekk private meldinger   Logg InnLogg Inn 

Bok: "Før faraoene: Egypts mysiske forhistorie"

 
Start Nytt Tema   Svar på Tema    FrittForum Debatt Hovedsiden -> Forskjellig - Alt som ikke passer i andre grupper
Vis Forrige Tema :: Vis Neste Tema  
Av Innlegg
truud2
Oberstløytnant
Oberstløytnant


Ble Medlem: 16 Aug 2008
Innlegg: 2565
Bosted: Norge

InnleggSkrevet: 27 08 09 00:24    Tittel: Bok: "Før faraoene: Egypts mysiske forhistorie" Svar med Sitat

Before the Pharaohs: Egypt's Mysterious Prehistory



Amazon Books skrev:
Editorial Reviews
Review
“Contains a wealth of data and invaluable references not easily encountered elsewhere. Malkowski makes otherwise daunting technical information accessible and readable. I enjoyed this book thoroughly.”
( John Anthony West, author of Serpent in the Sky: The High Wisdom of Ancient Egypt )

“Ed Malkowski has presented a concise digest of modern research on the early origins of human civilization. His insights regarding the emergence of Cro-Magnon man alone are worth the price of the book!”
( Christopher Dunn, author of The Giza Power Plant: Technologies of Ancient Egypt )

". . . a fascinating look at the secrets of the pyramids, the Sphinx, and Egypt in the time before recorded history."
(Dave Roy, Curled Up with a Good Book, May 2006 )

"An absorbing, big-picture study."
(Ruth Parnell, Nexus, Nov-Dec 2006 )

Product Description

Presents conclusive evidence that ancient Egypt was originally the remnant of an earlier, highly sophisticated civilization

• Supports earlier speculations based on myth and esoteric sources with scientific proof from the fields of genetics, engineering, and geology
• Provides further proof of the connection between the Mayans and ancient Egyptians
• Links the mystery of Cro-Magnon man to the rise and fall of this ancient civilization

In the late nineteenth century, French explorer Augustus Le Plongeon, after years of research in Mexico’s Yucatán Peninsula, concluded that the Mayan and Egyptian civilizations were related--as remnants of a once greater and highly sophisticated culture. The discoveries of modern researchers over the last two decades now support this once derided speculation with evidence revealing that the Sphinx is thousands of years older than Egyptologists have claimed, that the pyramids were not tombs but geomechanical power plants, and that the megaliths of the Nabta Playa reveal complex astronomical star maps that existed 4,000 years before conventional historians deemed such knowledge possible.

Much of the past support for prehistoric civilization has relied on esoteric traditions and mythic narrative. Using hard scientific evidence from the fields of archaeology, genetics, engineering, and geology, as well as sacred and religious texts, Malkowski shows that these mythic narratives are based on actual events and that a highly sophisticated civilization did once exist prior to those of Egypt and Sumer. Tying its cataclysmic fall to the mysterious disappearance of Cro-Magnon culture, Before the Pharaohs offers a compelling new view of humanity’s past.


See all Editorial Reviews


Jeg har ofte lurt på hvilken kultur den egyptiske sivilisasjonen oppsto fra, så dette virker interessant. Om noen her leser boka kunne det derfor også være interessant med feedback
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Relaterte spekulasjoner:

Atlantis and the Kingdom of the Neanderthals: 100,000 Years of Lost History



Amazon Books skrev:
Editorial Reviews
Review
"Atlantis and the Kingdom of the Neandertahals is a fascinating contribution to the debate about ancient civilizations, written with rare psychological insight, and a more than worthy addition to Wilson's canon."
(Steve Taylor, New Dawn, Nov-Dec 2006 )

“Somewhere in the far distant past may not be far enough or distant enough to tell us the truth of our beginnings. Atlantis and the Kingdom of the Neanderthals, 100,000 years of Lost History is a great way to start re-configuring what we know.”
( Noble Augusta, The Intuitive-Connections Network, Jan 2006 )

Product Description
The history of Neanderthal influence from Atlantis to the contemporary era

• Provides evidence of Neanderthal man’s superior intelligence.
• Explores the unexplained scientific and architectural feats of ancient civilizations.
• Presents an alternative history of humankind since 7500 B.C. with an emphasis on esoteric traditions and the history of Christianity from the Essenes onward

In Atlantis and the Kingdom of the Neanderthals Colin Wilson presents evidence of a widespread Neanderthal civilization as the origin of sophisticated ancient knowledge. Examining remarkable archaeological discoveries that date back millennia, he suggests that civilization on Earth is far older than we have previously realized. Using this information as a springboard, Wilson then fills in the gaps in the past 100,000 years of human history, providing answers to previously unexplained scientific and architectural feats of ancient civilizations.

Wilson shows that not only did Atlantis exist but that the civilizing force behind it was the Neanderthals. Far from being the violent brutes they are traditionally depicted as, Wilson shows that the Neanderthals had sophisticated mathematical and astrological knowledge, including an understanding of the precession of the equinoxes, and that they possessed advanced telepathic abilities akin to the “group consciousness” evident in flocks of birds and schools of fish. These abilities, he demonstrates, have been transmitted through the ages by the various keepers of the hermetic tradition--including the Templars, Freemasons, and other secret societies. In the course of his investigation, Wilson also finds new information about historical links between the Masonic tradition and the Essenes that indicate that America was “discovered” long before Columbus set sail and that Jesus actually survived crucifixion and fled to France with his wife Mary Magdalene.


"superior intelligence" (?)
Fascinerende spekulasjon om Neandertalerne synes jeg. Men hva bygger han det på? Mytologi/hodeskaller?

Et BBC program om Neandertalerne gir forfatteren en viss støtte, her:
BBC skrev:
Professor Ralph Holloway, from Columbia University, New York, is an expert on ancient brains.

His assessment of the Neanderthal skull was startling. It was 20% larger than the average size of a modern human's brain, and anatomically identical. He could tell that this Neanderthal was right-handed and that that the areas of brain responsible for complex thought were just as advanced as ours. He should have had the ability to think like us.

But one of the ways we use our brains is very particular. We talk. This ability makes us unique in the world today, and arguably makes us human. So was it possible to tell if Neanderthal could have spoken? A tiny bone in the throat, called the hyoid, offered a clue. This bone supports the soft tissue of the throat, and several groups of scientists are attempting to model that soft tissue from the bones and discover what he might have sounded like.

Professor Bob Franciscus, from Iowa University, is part of a multi-national group attempting to do just that. By making scans of modern humans, he saw how the soft tissue of the vocal tracts depends on the position of the hyoid bone and the anchoring sites on the skull. Computer predictions were then be made to determine the shape of the modern human vocal tract from bone data alone. The same equations were then used with data from a Neanderthal skull to predict the shape of a Neanderthal vocal tract.

The Neanderthal vocal tract seems to have been shorter and wider than a modern male human's, closer to that found today in modern human females. It's possible, then, that Neanderthal males had higher pitched voices than we might have expected. Together with a big chest, mouth, and huge nasal cavity, a big, harsh, high, sound might have resulted. But, crucially, the anatomy of the vocal tract is close enough to that of modern humans to indicate that anatomically there was no reason why Neanderthal could not have produced the complex range of sounds needed for speech.
Kilde: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/neanderthal_prog_summary.shtml




A famous Neandertal representation is the statue done by Paul Darde in 1930, which stands outside the Musee National de Prehistoire in the village of Les Eyzies, France. It gives an impression of sheer strength and endurance, which is probably quite accurate. This statue is more realistic than the previous representations, without the bent knees and stooped posture. It still has the big toe diverging from the others, an ape-like feature which Neandertals did not have.



The model on the left is from the cliff site of Roque St. Christophe, and is probably some decades old. The model on the right is by sculptor Stephen Brois, and was done for the American Museum of Natural History in the 1990's.

In recent years, portrayals of Neandertals become less sensationalistic, reflecting the fact that Neandertals were not ape-men, but were, despite minor anatomical differences, essentially like ourselves (which does not necessarily mean that they belonged to the same species as modern humans). These drawings are the work of scientific illustrator Jay Matternes, from the October issue of Science 81


Kilde: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/savage.html

Rekonstruksjon av neandertalhoder fra syd-Afrika, som gir et litt annet inntrykk:


Soft tissue morphing from a modern child (age 4y) (left) to the Devil's Tower Neanderthal child (right)


The Devil's Tower Neanderthal child (model reconstruction: E. Daynès, Paris)
Kilde: http://www.ifi.uzh.ch/~zolli/CAP/Gib2.htm
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________



Homo neanderthalensis (Child) Skull Teshik-Tash BH-027

70,000 YA. The Homo neanderthalensis (Child) Skull Teshik-Tash was discovered by A. Okladnikov in Uzbekistan in 1938. This skull helped establish the easternmost range of Neanderthals. It has been suggested that this skeleton was buried in a ritual fashion. With an estimated age of 9 years, this young boy had matured enough physically to exhibit distinctive Neanderthal characteristics, such as a large face and nasal area, a long, low cranium, a mandible without a chin, and a maturing browridge. The original cranium was reconstructed from approximately 150 fragments.

Kilde: http://www.boneclones.com/BH-027.htm

Anatomy:

Neanderthals were generally only 12–14 cm shorter than modern humans, contrary to a common view of them as "very short" or "just over 5 feet". Based on 45 long bones from (at most) 14 males and 7 females, Neanderthal males averaged 164–168 cm (65–66 in) and females 152–156 cm (60–61 in) tall. Compared to Europeans some 20,000 years ago, it is nearly identical, perhaps slightly taller. Considering the body build of Neanderthals, new body weight estimates show they are only slightly above the cm/weight or the body mass index of modern Americans or Canadians.[24]

Neanderthals had more robust build and distinctive morphological features, especially of the cranium, which gradually accumulated more derived aspects, particularly in certain relatively isolated geographic regions. Evidence suggests they were much stronger than modern humans;[25] their relatively robust stature is thought to be an adaptation to the cold climate of Europe during the Pleistocene epoch.

A 2007 study suggested some Neanderthals may have had red hair and pale skin color. Ancient DNA Reveals That Some Neanderthals Were Redheads (10/27/2007)


Sitat:
Ancient DNA suggests that at least some Neanderthals had red hair and pale skin. Neanderthals' pigmentation may even have been as varied as that of modern humans, and that at least 1% of Neanderthals were likely redheads. (Credit: 'Illustration by Knut Finstermeier; Neanderthal reconstruction by the Reiss-Engelhorn-Museum Mannheim')


Neanderthal genome project:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Neanderthal Genome Project)

In July 2006, the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Germany and 454 Life Sciences in the United States announced that they would be sequencing the Neanderthal genome over the next several years. At roughly 3.2 billion base pairs,[1] the Neanderthal genome is about the size of the modern human genome; according to preliminary sequences, modern human and Neanderthal DNA appear to be 99.5% identical (compared to humans sharing around 95% of their genes with the chimpanzee). The researchers recovered ancient DNA of Neanderthals by extracting the DNA from the femur bone of a 38,000-year-old male Neanderthal specimen from Vindija Cave, Croatia, and also other bones found in Spain, Russia, and Germany. Only about half a gram of the bone samples was required for the sequencing, but the project faced many difficulties, including the contamination of the samples by the bacteria that had colonized the Neanderthal's body and humans who handled the bones at the excavation site and at the laboratory.

In 2006, two research teams working on the same Neanderthal sample published their results, Richard Green and his team in Nature, and Noonan et al. in Science. The results were received with some criticism, mainly surrounding the issue of a possible admixture of Neanderthals into the modern human genome. The speech-related gene FOXP2 with the same mutations as in modern humans was discovered in ancient DNA in the El Sidron 1253 and 1351c specimens, suggesting Neanderthals might have shared some basic language capabilities with modern humans.

In February 2009, the Planck Institute's team, led by geneticist Svante Pääbo, announced that they had completed the first draft of the Neanderthal genome, which covers about 63% of the entire base pairs

An early analysis of the data suggested in "the genome of Neanderthals, a human species driven to extinction" "no significant trace of Neanderthal genes in modern humans". New results suggested that some adult Neanderthals were lactose intolerant. On the question of potentially cloning a Neanderthal, Pääbo commented, "Starting from the DNA extracted from a fossil, it is and will remain impossible."
Kilde: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_genome_project

Medline skrev:
A complete mitochondrial (mt) genome sequence was reconstructed from a 38,000 year-old Neandertal individual with 8341 mtDNA sequences identified among 4.8 Gb of DNA generated from approximately 0.3 g of bone. Analysis of the assembled sequence unequivocally establishes that the Neandertal mtDNA falls outside the variation of extant human mtDNAs, and allows an estimate of the divergence date between the two mtDNA lineages of 660,000 +/- 140,000 years. Of the 13 proteins encoded in the mtDNA, subunit 2 of cytochrome c oxidase of the mitochondrial electron transport chain has experienced the largest number of amino acid substitutions in human ancestors since the separation from Neandertals. There is evidence that purifying selection in the Neandertal mtDNA was reduced compared with other primate lineages, suggesting that the effective population size of Neandertals was small.

PMID: 18692465 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] PMCID: PMC260284
Kilde: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=18692465


Max-Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, Leipzig, Germany: Recent advances in high-thoughput DNA sequencing have made genome-scale analyses of genomes of extinct organisms possible.

Like før Jurassic Park blir virkelig? Shocked

Her er en interessant meningsutveksling om Neandertalernes røde hår og andre genetiske egenskaper: http://www.nature.com/news/2007/071025/full/news.2007.197.html

Trådstarter har sporet grundig av fra trådens tema. Beklager! Men jeg ble fascinert av neandertalerne og påstanden om deres "superior intelligence"
_________________
"Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate." - Thomas Jones
Til Toppen
Vis Medlemmets Profil Send Privat Melding
Vis Innlegg fra:   
Start Nytt Tema   Svar på Tema    FrittForum Debatt Hovedsiden -> Forskjellig - Alt som ikke passer i andre grupper Alle klokkeslett er CET (Europa)
Side 1 av 1

 
Gå Til:  
Du kan ikke starte nye temaer i dette forumet
Du kan ikke svare på temaer i dette forumet
Du kan ikke endre dine egne innlegg i dette forumet
Du kan ikke slette dine egne innlegg i dette forumet
Du kan ikke delta i avstemninger i dette forumet


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

(GH2)

Opprett ditt eget phpBB 2 forum gratis her | Personvern