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Scotty skrev:
They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules.

Dette lærer en ikke noe om i den norske kirke, mye av det som vi har funnet frem er nok til å underkjenne deler av kirkens doktriner og lære.
Noe å se nærmere på.

Mye å se nærmere på, Scotty!
Betegnelsen "the Pillars of Hercules" minnet meg om den beskrivelsen av Atlantis, som Platon fikk av sin bestefar, som igjen hadde fått den av Solon (som i sin tur hadde oversatt beskrivelsen av Atlantis, fra egyptiske kilder), hvilket Platon siterte i dialogene, Timaeus og Critias så jeg googlet på ordkombinasjonen "Tyrrhenian Sea Arbroath Scythia atlantis"


Det ga meg mange ulike treff. Bl.a. flg.:


Most maps of Atlantis are fanciful - as is this one, though it does show the approximate location of where Atlantis is believed to have existed


The capitol of Atlantis

Atlantis was described as being laid out in circular manner, surrounded by three circular concentric pits of seawater and two earth-rings, each connected to the sea by a deep canal. Docks for a large number of ships, with a causeway, were also mentioned. Kilde: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_hypotheses_of_Atlantis#Santorini

Sirkulær layout med 3 vannfylte, konsentriske, ringer, rimer jo med figuren over, men var Atlantis bare en by? Det rimer dårlig med kartet, øverst. Men, detaljene skjuler seg jo stadig i mytologisk tåke.


Kartet over bildet ovenfor minnet meg om at jeg en gang leste at gælisk hadde sin eneste språkslektning i gammelt baskisk språk i motsetning til alle andre europeiske språk, som er beslektede indo-europeiske varianter. Og forfatteren spekulerte derfor på om Portugal kunne ha vært landfast med de britiske øyer gjennom et (forsvunnet) kontinent ute i atlanteren, utenfor "Pillars of Hercules" (what we now call the Straight of Gibraltar.) Altså et Atlantisaktig kontinent, om enn ganske mye større enn det Atlantis, som antydes i kartet, om det var landfast med de britiske øyer.

DIRECTION OF LANGUAGE FLOW FROM ATLANTIS

The map below illustrates roughly the possible direction and manner of language flow, from mainland Atlantis to the European and African continents, as well as to the particular Atlantic island groups. It seems likely that differences in dialects of the Atlantean language from north to south in Atlantis itself could have developed over tens of thousands of years. Such differences would have manifested themselves in the various North African and West European languages shown on the map. The languages shown are all closely related to one another, yet totally unrelated to other European languages.


Kilde: Linguistic Connections in regard to Atlantis

Snakket de altså gælisk i Atlantis?

Finnes det noen spor etter et sunket kontinent på bunnen av Atlanterhavet?
Forsøk på å finne noe slikt har gitt dette datagenererte bildet:


Sitat:
When a computer was used to reassemble the continental jigsaw, the fit across the Atlantic was found, with some adjustment, to be fairly satisfactory. But that picture does not take account of a fascinating underwater feature known as the mid-Atlantic Ridge. This mountainous ridge, nearly two miles high and hundreds of miles wide, runs in an S-curve down the Atlantic midway between the Americas and Africa and Europe, following the contours of those continents and marking its course above water with a number of islands, such as the Azores, Ascension Island, and Tristan da Cunha.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_bermuda_5f.htm


Atlantismyten, som beskrevet i bibelen:

The mysterious "Sons of God" (ben Elohim) of Gen.6 are precisely the same ones identified by Plato with the Atlanteans. Their sin with the Daughters of Men — and, more probably, the rejection and enslavement of their hybrid offspring — led to the Flood. This is indeed the mysterious Original Sin that resulted in the destruction of Paradise (Atlantis) and the Fall of Man. This sin is the one ritually "washed" by the Baptism, itself an allegory of the Flood, as St. Jerome and other Church Patriarchs explicitly acknowledge.

Plato quotes precisely this cause for the destruction of Atlantis by God (Zeus) in his (unfinished) dialogue on Atlantis, the Critias. And the same story, in allegorized form, is also told by Homer concerning the Phaeacian "Sons of God". It also figures in the Celtic myths concerning Mererid, the sinful daughter of King Gradlon, whose scabrous conduct led to the sinking of the land of Ys. So, in the Americas (Bochica, etc.) and elsewhere.

If we read the Bible attentively, we note that it also speaks of two creations, exactly as Plato also tells of two different Atlantises (cf. Gen. 1 and 2). Moreover, the Bible also tells of two destructions of the world by the Deluge.

These two different narratives are quaintly embroidered on each other in Gen. 6, and comprise the Elohist and the Jahvist accounts of the Flood, which relate two visibly different events. (Atlantis og Lemuria/Mu i Stillehavet)

The bible is right after all:

We see, then, that the tradition (or traditions) narrated by Plato exactly coincides with the Biblical lore. Moreover, as we said above, the two traditions also exactly agree with the prehistoric events observed in the geological and the archaeological records. And, when we trace the worldwide legends to their source, we always end up in India and Indonesia, the two Atlantises of legend, no matter where we start from.

In truth, continents don’t sink. It is the sea that rises, flooding entire continents, as it did in Lemurian Atlantis and, to a great extent, in the Indus Valley, the site of the second Atlantis. Relativists will say that both events — sea level rise and continental sinking — are one and the same thing, at least from the point of view of the observers. But geologists will hotly debate the issue, and claim, as they have long done, that actual sunken continents are a geological impossibility. It is all a matter of perspective, of relativistic illusion.

But the best ancient sources — say, for instance that magnificent Hindu saga, the Mahabharataspeak of sea level rising rather than of continents sinking


Kilde: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantida_mu/esp_atlantida_2a.htm#eden_was

Om dette er riktig betyr det jo at både Atlantis og Mu kan gjenfinnes noenlunde uskadde under havet (om de har eksistert.)
En plutselig heving av havnivået kan kanskje henføres til rask avsmelting av pol-isen, og/eller av store meteornedslag, da meteorer og meteoritter jo har vist seg hovedsaklig å være store "skitne snøballer", som mest består av is, så det løser en del geologiske paradokser rundt Atlantis/Mu-mytene.

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Andre treff jeg fikk på "Tyrrhenian Sea Arbroath Scythia atlantis" var dette:

An open and unbiased study of the Bible, including many key Greek and Hebrew words as well as Church history will reveal some surprising things.

For instance, did you know that....

"Hell" Is Not an Old Testament doctrine:

Popular myth : Hell is an established Biblical doctrine that is in the Bible from start to finish. This is not true! Two thirds of the Bible (the Old Testament) does not mention Hell at all. ("Sheol," the Old Testament word that is sometimes translated as Hell, only means "grave" by definition, and it is where everyone in the Old Testament went when they died -- good or evil, Jew or Gentile).

Thus the Old Testament does not contain the concept of Hell!

Think about it...

If Hell is real, why didn't God make that warning plain right at the
beginning of the Bible? God said the penalty for eating of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was death- -not "eternal life" in fire and brimstone.

Kilde: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-7428-p-2.html

Og dertil flg.:

- Princess Scota was an Egyptian princess of the 18th dynasty who married Niull, a Scythian prince. She migrated to Spain at the time of the Exodus and eventually her line joined with the Irish Kings, the Tuatha de Danaan.

The 18th dynasty were Hyksos pharoahs who were had migrated from Scythia (Noah's sons) to Mesopatamia to Canaan before ruling lower Egypt for around 200 years.

Barry Dunford's book, THE HOLY LAND OF SCOTLAND,is one of the most revolutionary books ever written.
He describes the beginning of the "Mother Church" in Scotland that gave rise to the Essenes that migrated to Qumran to prepare the way for the birth of Christ.
Sitat:
Is it conceivable that two thousand years ago Jesus and members of His family came to ancient Caledonia, now Scotland. This extraordinary possibility is examined in detail by Scottish based author Barry Dunford, after having extensively researched this fascinating and intriguing scenario.
There is reason to believe that the forbears of Jesus may have been of Celto-Hebraic origin and that while His immediate family came from gentilic Galilee, their earlier roots may well have originated in the British Isles, specifically ancient Caledonia, now Scotland. Related to the foregoing is a possible link between the Jesus family lineage and the Celtic Royal household of ancient Britain, which is suggested in documents found in the English College of Arms (the Heralds Office) and elsewhere. This appears to have had a direct bearing on the presence of Joseph of Arimathea and a key Apostolic mission in ancient Britain. The ramifications behind this Christic movement in the British Isles are far reaching indeed.

There have been a number of inferences from various ecclesiastical sources, together with many localised legends, encompassing the past two millennia, to the effect that during the first century A.D, an Apostolic mission in the British Isles, was at the root of the development of the Church of Christ in Britain.



Furthermore, his chapter titled The Anti-Grail Scenario gives great insight into the history of The Contollers:

"International Banking and Human Sabotage
(Extracted from The Holy Land of Scotland:
Jesus in Scotland & The Gospel of the Grail, Chapter 8, by Barry Dunford).

This reveals the centralised controlling monetary mechanism of International Finance which currently dominates the Governments and the people of this world. There is also information as to how this anti-social and wholly unnecessary state of affairs can be changed for the betterment of humanity."

http://www.sacredconnection.ndo.co.uk/Economic%20awareness/Economicsp2.htm

In the back of the book, he has an absolutely astounding chapter describing how HItler may have been Prince Albert who would have been the King of England until his little Jack the Ripper scrape!

I realize this sounds outrageous. All I can say is I've checked it out with those "in the know" and they say they have heard of this and it does make sense when you look at it.

Kilde: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/44369

Hvor troverdig det er skal jeg ikke mene noe om, men fantasieggende? Absolutt!

Men, det blir selvfølgelig mange spekulasjoner

Det er stoff for Dan Brown til en ny "daVinci kode" her, tror jeg Smile

Vi får grave videre og se hvor det leder hen...
Kanskje kommer vi Dan Brown i forkjøpet?



Sitat:
As Roman Historian Pomponius Mela said 'the pharusii dwelt by the Atlantic where they stretched as far as the hesperides' [hesperides = farthest ultimate west] (North American) Vitrified Forts blasted by laser and nuclear activity scatter the globe and are found in Moray in Scotland - the land of the giants - at the Center of the universe - eastern Scotland. The Pictish pre Celtic stones eg. Golspie stone illustrate the twin meteorite strike - whilst the Tartan wanderers, the displaced turn up in stone dolmens all over the world taking their tartan even to China.


Io, or Isis, the Mother of the race as it were is commemorated by the holy isle of Iona very near the epicenter of the strike on the corrupt capital, an unassuming island next to the holy of holies on the Isle of Mull.


Det henvises stadig til "Picts" og "Pictish", så jeg slo det opp og fant:

Wikipedia skrev:
The Picts were a confederation of tribes living in what was later to become eastern and northern Scotland from before the Roman conquest of Britain until the 10th century. They lived to the north of the Forth and Clyde rivers, and spoke the extinct Pictish language, thought to have been related to the Brythonic languages spoken by the Britons to the south. They are assumed to have been the descendants of the Caledonii and other tribes named by Roman historians or found on the world map of Ptolemy. Pictland, also known as Pictavia, gradually absorbed the Gaelic kingdom of Dál Riata to form the Kingdom of Alba. Alba expanded absorbing British and Bernician territory and by the 11th century the Pictish identity had become subsumed under a new term for this amalgamation of North British peoples: the "Scots".

Archaeology gives some impression of the society of the Picts. Although very little in the way of Pictish writing has survived, Pictish history since the late 6th century is known from a variety of sources, including Bede's Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum, saints' lives such as that of Columba by Adomnán, and various Irish annals. Although the popular impression of the Picts may be one of an obscure, mysterious people, this is far from being the case. When compared with the generality of Northern, Central and Eastern Europe in Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages, Pictish history and society are well attested
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picts



The Aberlemno Serpent Stone, Class I Pictish stone

At: "Vitrified Forts blasted by laser and nuclear activity scatter the globe and are found in Moray in Scotland" vekket min nysgjerrighet og googling på temaet ga bl.a.:

Laura Lee website skrev:
Elsewhere in Templar records and in folk myth, there are records of great technological stockpiles under the Scottish Mountains; robots or 'dollmen', particle weapons, and great 'alchemical laboratories'. It may be that much of the splendor of Atlantis was partially submerged and inhabited by a semi aquatic species from which came the princess of the original dynasty that mated with the original Aryans. The marriage of the Mero and the Vingians, and the subsequent creation of humanity - a sexual gendered species happened in Scotland.

The symbol of the Bloodline and the Goddess descent is indeed the clamshell a device used by Robert the Bruce a King of Scotland. Indeed the historic pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostella in Celtic Spain actually more anciently went farther to the port of Finistere also known anciently as the End of the Earth - the pilgrim traveled clamshell in hand to what must have been a muster point at which to take flight to the stars. The pilgrim route is known as the Milky Way. From the Center of the Universe in the land of the Giants or Mero in Moray northeast Scotland to the End of the Earth - folk history records that these people took ship to the stars.

It may then be that after the fall and the destruction - the remainder of the architects of Eden took their skills and deployed them amongst the cultures they then wandered into.

It is a truth that History belongs to the victors - and over the millennia - much of what we take today for history has been distorted and edited to glorify the interests of the strongest and the few - usually covering up crimes of great magnitude.

The truth about the Holy Land of Scotland went to print by an author called Barry Dunsford - who amongst other things pointed out that Pontius Pilate was born in central Scotland at a place called Fortingale, near Killin. It always seemed strange that a family - the Pilate family central to the destruction of one of Gods and Histories central characters was located not very far from Edinburgh, Scotland.

Dunsford’s source was the books by W Comyns Beaumont on the riddle of prehistoric Britain, and Britain - the key to World History.

It is therein suggested that the ancient Merovingians wandered the planet but that the origins of the Jews may well be rooted in the Scottish Atlantean Mystery. After the deluge - the ruling tribe of Aryans returned. These people were known historically as the People of the Cat, the lion rampant their symbol - the popular flag of Caledonia Scotland and also of the King of Norway - also anciently a country part of Atlantean Thule. Edinburgh, having a very sphinx like hill later called Arthur’s Seat, which looks like a lion couchant was also known as the City of the Lion. The patron Saint of Edinburgh is David.

It is pointed out by these authors that the biblical references to Jerusalem refer to a fertile land, full of mines and minerals and crops with a seaport called Joppa. That fits exactly the locality of Edinburgh - not the Jerusalem in Palestine - which has a very distant port called Jaffa and whose only extract in a barren land may be salt or potash.

Given that history favors the victor - then something sure must have gone real wrong to make us all think the things we now think about Jerusalem. But the records show that Rome built a boundary chain around Jerusalem some 80 miles and indeed, there exists the chain of forts called the Catrail that is almost exactly 80 miles. The People of the Cat, or the Gadeni or the Gad were the ruling tribe of Jews, and the entire fertile area of Edinburgh and the Lothians was populated by some 1 million people - a place which was biblically recorded to be a hub of civilization. Today, all the Roman signposts have been defaced and deleted – for something terrible happened in Edinburgh . At a time of serious instability in the Roman Empire, the Jews of the tribe of Gad, the Silurians, revolted and the retribution from Rome was terrible indeed. There was a massacre of some 80-100,000 people by the Legions and the Emperor ordered that not a stone remain standing and that salt be put on the Earth.

Beaumont’s book details the map of Edinburgh /Jerusalem as it was. The citadel being Edinburgh Castle on the impregnable rock of 3 precipitous sides - more ably conforms to biblical descriptions than our current understanding of the citadel in Jerusalem in Palestine. The Dung Gate corresponds with the Cowgate in Edinburgh, the Temple Mount on the way of God, Edinburgh’s Royal Mile, the Temple Mount there stands St Giles Cathedral and a commemorative Heart in the cobbles outside which signify the Heart of the Lothians. Opposite St Giles on the Temple Mount - the law courts. And one of the oldest Masonic Lodges also stands near the Royal Mile, whilst the Mount of Olives was Arthurs Seat, Golgotha was Gogar, and Holyrood Palace was the Palace of Cedars - and Joppa has always been a port of Edinburgh.

The broad estuary upon which Edinburgh stands, City of the Lion, of the Gad, of the sovereign tribe of Jews, is called the Firth of Forth, translates as the way of ways - and this crossing of a broad estuary at Jerusalem is noted in the Bible. With Pontius Pilate staying just North of the Roman Fort chain which fenced the area in like some ancient Ghetto comprised of one of the richest and most powerful hubs of civilization in the ancient world with its lead and silver mines, fertile lands and rich people - the Scottish Jerusalem was a powerful place. It is recorded that King David, on the run from Solomon consulted a seer of Gad. Edinburgh has had many names; Kaer Eden, Dun Gad, Giudi-ail-Guarth – Place of the Jews of Gad, Chaonia - place of Chaos. In 134AD, the Jews proclaimed a new 'messiah', Bar-Cocheba, son of the star, and the chief rabbi anointed him King of the Jews. A coin was minted showing him horsed with a crown, and on the reverse side was a Thistle - the symbol of Scotland - the coin symbolized the first year
of redemption.

My recent activity in Edinburgh, Scotland has brought me a lot of attention. MI5 Dept of Parapsychology, Special Branch - all seem to be keeping tabs on me as my group continues to put stuff out about shapeshifting reptoids - and the true historic and global significance of Edinburgh, Scotland. Draco, Scotland, Edinburgh, Bloodlines and MI5 all seem to go together. Edinburgh was a holy city at the time of Atlantis - and the remains have been carefully enshrined in masonic secrets and buildings in and around Edinburgh.

It is most likely that the original dispute that sparked the Atlantis war amongst the shining ones or Els happened in Edinburgh - for that part of Scotland was also once part of Thule of Atlantis. The author Comyns Beaumont describes the real significance in his 1946 book 'Britain key to World History' the rights to which are owned by the CIA and an International Esoteric Temple called the Star Temple What is on the cards is probably that Scotland will again revert to being an ancient priest kingdom and Edinburgh will again revert to being a Holy City. - in this New World Order.
http://www.lauralee.com/news/truehistory.htm


Utrolig mye ny og ukjent mytologi, synes jeg. Underlig at dette er så ukjent, eller er det bare jeg, som er dårlig informert?


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Her er en link som du sikkert vil ha interesse av:

http://www.atlanticconference.org/2009/bioGunnar.html

Gunnar Thompson m.fl. holder flere forelesninger i oktober.
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Scotty skrev:
Her er en link som du sikkert vil ha interesse av:

http://www.atlanticconference.org/2009/bioGunnar.html

Gunnar Thompson m.fl. holder flere forelesninger i oktober.
Her er det mye å lære Smile


Interessant!
Og dette kinesiske kartet viser jo at verdenskontinentene var kjent i 1418, skjønt Nord, mellom-og-sydamerika virker noe vridd og deformert. Afrika, Europa og Middelhavet ser derimot mer ut, som vi kjenner det Men det skimtes et kontinent ute i Atlanteren både nordvest for Europa og øst for nordamerika, synes jeg. Atlantis? Skjønt mytene plasserer vel Atlantis over 11.0000 tilbake i tid, så kartet fra 1418, er isåfall ikke tidsriktig. Men, det er kanskje kopi av en mye eldre, original(er), akkurat som Piri Reis-kartet fra 1513? Men Piri Reis-kartet viser ikke noe kontinent nordvest for Europa/Øst for nordamerika, så det er kanskje mer tidsriktig?



Men da er jo det kjente Piri Reis kartet, som vister landkonturer der sydpolen ligger idag. Land, som har vært skjult av is i ca. 1 million år (~900 år før mennesket oppsto iht. Darwinismen):




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The Piri Reis map, discovered in 1929, was drawn on a gazelle skin. It was drawn in 1513 by an admiral of the Turkish Fleet named Piri Reis. The map is extraordinary because not only does it show the west coast of Africa and the east coast of South America, it also depicts the northern coast of Antarctica. Keep in mind that this map was drawn 300 years before Antarctica was “discovered”!

Notes made by Reis on the map indicate that he used a number of other maps as sources of information for the map that he drew. Due to his elevated status in the Turkish Navy, Reis was able to access the resources of the Imperial Library of Constantinople.

Scientists have examined the map and concluded that the Piri Reis map shows an amazingly accurate depiction of Antarctica's coastline. The coastline must have been mapped before it was covered by the ice-cap, which is now about one mile thick.

In the past, scientists felt that the ice-cap that now covers Antarctica was about one million years old. That would mean that the map was drawn based on information gathered a million years ago. This would be impossible because man did not exist at that time.

Further study has indicated that the last time period during which the Antarctic was free of ice ended approximately 6,000 years ago. When the ice-free period began is still unclear, although it has been estimated at somewhere between 13000 BC and 9000 BC

Read more: http://paranormal.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_mysterious_piri_reis_map#ixzz0Si0sgVEt

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Den brasilianske kjernefysikeren, prof. Arysio Nunes dos Santos, forsket i årevis inngående på Atlantismytene og skrev en bok om sine oppdagelser: Atlantis, The Lost Continent Finally Found




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Thousands of books have already been written on Atlantis since its reality was first disclosed by the great philosopher Plato, some two and a half millennia ago. Hence, one may well wonder whether a new book on the subject is really needed. Can anything new actually be said about Atlantis? The answer is a most categorical yes. After all, the riddle of Atlantis has never been satisfactorily solved so far. The present book is an attempt by a reputed scientist, to scientifically compare and refute,– perhaps for the first time ever, the various existing theories on Atlantis' location and reality. The author also expounds his own theory which definitively locates Atlantis in Indonesia. In his research, Prof. Santos marries the most recent results and techniques of Modern Science to the sacred and folk lore of all the peoples of the world, knitting humanity together in a solution to the riddle of Atlantis that neatly ties together the vast scientific and traditional evidence which was always there but never before seen by other researchers. The reader, whether a scientist with an open mind or a lay person, is led to conclude that Plato could well have been telling the truth, after all, since the information provided by the great philosopher is so uncannily confirmed by the recent scientific finds of all sorts.

About the Author
Prof. Arysio Nunes Santos, the author of the present book, has published numerous other books and articles on Science and Engineering, as well as on arcane subjects such as Mythology, Symbolism, Alchemy, the Holy Grail, Comparative Religion, etc.. A professional nuclear physicist and geologist with a Ph. D. in Nuclear Physics and a Free-Docency in Physical-Chemistry, Prof. Santos has dedicated himself intensely to a close study of Plato'’s texts and the problem of Atlantis. His Internet Site on Atlantis, atlan.org, has received over 2.5 million visits in the last few years, being by far the most popular resource in that medium.


På sin webside skriver han dessuten flg.:

Atlantis is the ultimate source of all mythologies and all religions. Indeed, the essence of the ancient Mystery Religions — from which Christianity sprung — centered on the theme of Atlantis and its demise in the cataclysm we call the Flood. The eschatology — that is, the doctrine of final things such as Doom and the Resurrection of the Dead — of Millenarian Religions such as Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism all issue rather directly from the myths of Atlantis and its terrible fate.



So do traditions such as the Grail Cycle and the myth of the Wandering Hero in search of Paradise. Indeed, Atlantis is no other than the Primordial Paradise, which was the source from where the gods and angels brought the Gospels and the seeds of knowledge in the dawn of times. In this section we review certain themes like the Atlantean origin of myths, symbols and rites such as the Mysteries and the Christian Sacraments which we commemorate more or less apishly, in total ignorance of their essential connection with Atlantean events.
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1. The Atlantean Origin of the Seven Sacraments

The Cristian Sacraments commemorate the demise of Atlantis, that is, the Terrestrial Paradise. This article explains the meaning of these rituals, which root in the ancient Mystery Religions.

2. Corroborating Evidence on the Reality of Atlantis

This article discusses the reality of the Flood and of Atlantis in myths and religion.


Jeg fant ut via en leseranmeldelse på Amazon books at dos Santos døde i 2005, hvilket jeg synes er veldig synd. Jeg hadde sporadisk kontakt med ham pr. epost rundt 1998, før boken ble utgitt og han hovedsaklig var aktiv på webstedet sitt om Atlantis-spørsmålet. Jeg tok kontakt med ham ang. evt nordisk bakgrunn hos de lyshårede berberne i nordafrika og på kanariøyene og hvorvidt de kunne være etterkommere av et sunket Atlantis i Atlanterhavet. Men han hadde funnet ut at berbernes gamle språk hadde mest til felles med den indiske dialekten "dravidisk". Og det viste seg at han kunne mye mer om norrønn mytologi og historie, bl.a. det finske nasjonaleposet Kalevala, en jeg en gang visste eksisterte. Og han overbeviste meg om at de fleste av disse gamle eposene essensielt forteller samme historie allesammen, og leder i samnme retning hva stedsbestemmelse av Atlantis angår: Indonesia/det indiske subkontinentet, slik kartet under, og på bokens forside antyder:


Atlantis under siste istid

The Cause of the Ice Ages

The causes of the Ice Ages and of the periodic advance and retreat of the continental glaciers is not well known. But, to believe the myths, the end of the Pleistocene Ice Age was due to the cataclysmic explosion of Mt. Atlas, the one which wiped the twin Atlantises out of the map.

Mount Atlas — "the Pillar of Heaven" that decorated Lemurian Atlantis — was an immense volcanic peak in the region that now corresponds to the island arc of Indonesia. To be more precise, this volcano was the terrible Krakatoa, even today still alive and very active, despite its monumental explosion in Atlantean times. After its colossal explosion, the Krakatoa volcano sunk away underseas, becoming the giant caldera that now forms Sunda’s Strait between Java and Sumatra.

This giant caldera — fully 150 km across — is the "Fiery Submarine Mare" (Vadava-mukha) that we commented above. The giant explosion of the Holy Mountain is attested not only by the worldwide myths that recount the end of Paradise (Atlantis). Similar cataclysms in this remote region of the world are also testified by the tektite belt and the volcanic ash layer that covers most of the South Indian Ocean, Australia, Indonesia and Southeast Asia.

The ashes and dust liberated by the gigantic explosion were carried away by the winds, and covered the glaciers of North Asia and North America with a dark veil of carbonized matter. The result was an increased absorption of sunlight and a quick melting away of the glaciers that covered the continents beyond the Tropical Regions.


India/Atlantis var landfast med Australia

Kilde: http://www.atlan.org/articles/myth.html

Wikipedia skriver:

Contact outside Australia


The map shows the probable extent of land and water at the time of the last glacial maximum and when the sea level was probably more than 150m lower than today; it illustrates the formidable sea obstacle that migrants would have faced.

The people living along the northern coastline -the Kimberley, Arnhem Land, Gulf of Carpentaria and Cape York - have had encounters with various visitors for many thousands of years. People and traded goods moved freely between Australia and New Guinea up to and even after the eventual flooding of the land bridge by rising sea levels, which was completed about 6000 years ago.

However, trade and intercourse between the now-separated lands continued across the newly-formed Torres Strait, whose 150 km-wide channel remained readily navigable with the chain of Torres Strait Islands and reefs affording intermediary stopping points. The islands were settled by different seafaring Melanesian cultures such as the Torres Strait Islanders over 2500 years ago, and cultural interactions continued via this route with the Aboriginal people of northeast Australia.

Indonesian "Bajini" fishermen from the Spice Islands (e.g. Banda) have fished off the coast of Australia for hundreds of years. Macassan traders from Sulawesi (formerly Celebes) regularly visited the coast of northern Australia to fish for trepang (an edible sea cucumber) to trade with the Chinese since at least the early 1700s (see the main article Macassan contact with Australia).

There was a high degree of cultural exchange, evidenced in Aboriginal rock and bark paintings, the introduction of technologies such as dug-out canoes and items such as tobacco and tobacco pipes, Macassan words in Aboriginal languages (eg. Balanda for white person), and descendants of Malay people in Australian Aboriginal communities and vice versa, as a result of intermarriage and migration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory_of_Australia

Lå altså Atlantis/Lemuria(Mu) begge to i India? Og var det der bibelens Edens have befant seg?
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Hva med den teorien om at polene flytter seg og at kontinentet som ligger under Sørpolen var Atlantis og gikk til grunne i en kataklysme for rundt 12.500 år siden fordi Sørpolen flyttet seg over det?
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